An emergency “Great Talk” after an audio snafu. We get into the Cardinals trades this week and what they mean for the offseason. Martin points to 2025 before we really see value for the players acquired this week. When’s the last time the Cardinals drafted and developed an exceptional starting pitcher? A look back at Carlos Martinez, Flaherty, Matt Morris and more. Is Liberatore under too much pressure on the other side of the Arozarena deal? Or is he not buying into the  Cardinals plans? A look at Jordan Walker’s defense and future in the lineup. How is scouting different now than in the past? Listen here: